Originally by: Mr Manufacture

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Originally by: Imperian

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Please get a clue first what you are talking about.
Throwing alliance-names into this discussion is not very constructive, especially when you have no clue about MM and Tribute and MM's income as you just have proven. Sometimes I wish all those forum-geeks would come into 0.0 so I have the opportunity to beat the livin hell out of them.

Unbelievable. Jesus...

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Here is what I know about Tribute: its a crap bit of space with few resources that can in no way even begin to support the bill for your POS fuel

Here is what i know about MM: they own 10+ titans, hundreds of dreads, dozens of moms, trillions of ISK right there

so you tell me, how exactly did an alliance with the worst real estate in eve outwardly become one of the wealthiest entities?

I don't think we need an doctorate in economics to work that one out...

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Originally by: Mr Manufacture

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Originally by: Elecho

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this has just been pulled from the eve-o main page now...
already starting to sweep it under the carpet

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careful what you say, or CCP might just find a little too much ferrogel in your hangar

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Originally by: Kwa Kaine

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Originally by: Ziester

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edit: k*ugutsumen is a banned word?

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CCP still haven't learned that trying to cover stuff up is not a good idea.

We want the truth and we'll dig for it till we get it.

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Originally by: Gone'Postal

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Originally by: Kaaii

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Originally by: RedSplat

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Anyone notice how the vast majority of people saying 'stop whining' or being less than critical of CCP conduct are either anonymous alts or BoB aligned?

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Any one else notice how stupid he is?

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Yup.

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Originally by: Mr Manufacture

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Originally by: MyOwnSling

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I wouldn't know, I don't post there.

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And neither did your alt, or indeed any MM alt. Oh no, you're an honourable alliance

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Originally by: Mr Manufacture

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Originally by: Mr Manufacture

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Originally by: MyOwnSling

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I wouldn't know, I don't post there.

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And neither did your alt, or indeed any MM alt. Oh no, you're an honourable alliance

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Hang in there, eventually "someone" will pay attention to your rants, other than to laugh at you.

Hey, anything's possible....

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have you even read the thread? the 'cream' of MM are on maximum damage control, its hilarious

i need more popcorn

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It also doesn't surprise me that both Eris and Kieron both posted in a 2005 thread discussing this issue.

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Originally by: Devian 666

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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And this proves your point how?

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How does your trolling contribute to this thread?

The issue I have raised is that CCP go to great lengths to ignore any reports of problems, and don't put in the effort to understand them. If they had this issue would not have gone on for 4 years.

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Originally by: Devian 666

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Edited by: Devian 666 on 12/12/2008 01:22:21

Originally by: Ranger 1

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I edited something into that post as an after thought that may make you reconsider. Truth to tell, I'm not the troll here.

In fact, let me put that edit here for you.

Edit: If you look at his post closely, you will see that he quotes statement a dev made about CCP's reimbursement policy for losses. Please tell me why he would quote that if the petition he mentions is about free moon minerals. It makes absolutely no sense.

This is a classic example of "If you throw enough crap on the floor, someone will fall for it".

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I think you're trying to read a bit too much into my post. Reread what I wrote in that sentance.

While the 2005 thread is about CCP handling petitions poorly. Maltroc did say that he emailed Kieron about the exploit as the petitions he'd filed had been ignored or misunderstood by the GM who dealt with it.

There are two people that have publically stated that they reported the exploit. It makes me wonder how many people reported the exploit and were ignored.

I'm only pointing out that the QA on bug testing, reporting and petitions needs to be improved.

You seem to be focused on some conspiracy involving CCP which has nothing to do with my post.

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As for the use of this exploit, so far it has been Evoke and MM admitting it.

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Originally by: Etho Demerzel

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Edited by: Etho Demerzel on 13/12/2008 08:32:11

Originally by: Mr Facilitator

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Point made. I also have been playing this game for years now. Did not know about the exploit till today. I guess you can throw me into the mix as well. Considered one of the culprits as a friend for many months. Only in recent months did we have a falling out. My interest peak about his situation after I found his suposed renting of 0.0 space. Well guess what ? He was part of this fiasco. I can assure you his involvement was on for only months.

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And I can believe you. It is reasonably to assume that not everybody that did it became awareof it at the same time. It is not like this was a great conspirancy. It is more like a disease. I can clearly imagine people in awe discovering about it and deciding to keep their mouths shut,and the phenom spreading as more people get interested in moon materials.

It is a matter of statistics. People need to perform an unlikely task and notice the results. The chances are not in favor of this, but as the number of people interested increase the chance of at least a few of them discovering the exploit increases dramatically.

I have a good excuse to not have noticed, I never tried to assemble a moon mining POS. Maybe that was your case too. Maybe you did assemble a moon mining POS, but did it in a way the exploit didn't appear as ceratinly most people did. But it was the CCP's employees' duty to experiment. It is unexcusable that THEY didn't notice it for so much time. That is the whole reason why they are allowed to play in questionable circumstances.

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